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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Vinay,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The unbound name server is using the Least resent used (LRU) algorithm to decide what to throw out when the cache gets full. There is no ‘garbage collection’ like in Bind. Doing this like unbound does it should be somewhat faster and nicer to the processor, but the flip-side is that prefetching is not working that very well (good stuff might get thrown out when prefetching). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I notice that you don’t have that much memory. Maybe your memory is only large enough for say 10 minutes of cached entries. If nobody is asking for <a href="http://www.utorrent.com">www.utorrent.com</a> during those 10 minutes, then it will be kicked out. Try to increase your cache memory size or ask more often for the site that you want to make sure you have cached.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>/Stephan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> unbound-users-bounces@unbound.net [mailto:unbound-users-bounces@unbound.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>vinay3@justemail.net<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 07, 2012 1:55 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style='width:176.85pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:.2in'></td></tr><tr style='height:.2in'><td width=199 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:149.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:.2in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.ebay.com">www.ebay.com</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=64 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:48.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:.2in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>A<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=64 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:48.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:.2in'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><span style='color:black'>31.4418<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=64 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:48.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:.2in'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><span style='color:black'>5400<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=64 nowrap valign=bottom style='width:48.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:.2in'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><span style='color:black'>1<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=1179 nowrap colspan=5 valign=bottom style='width:884.35pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:.2in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>66.135.200.161, 66.135.200.181, 66.135.210.61, 66.135.210.181, 66.211.181.161, 66.211.181.181<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So this is appearing like unexpected behavior to me: If <a href="http://www.utorrent.com">www.utorrent.com</a> was scanned less than an hour ago and was supposed to be cached for 5400 seconds, why would a random scan like the one above find it flushed out of the cache (5400 TTL) and requiring an iteration (203.9 msecs response time)?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>